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US military is preparing joint exercises with South Korea, dashing hopes of diplomatic solution - such headline should've been around!
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lo yeeOn
2017-11-28 21:50:10 UTC
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"US military is preparing joint exercises with South Korea, dashing
hopes of diplomatic solution!" We should've been seeing such a
headline this week --- all week!

The odd thing, however, is that Washington is keenly aware of the
provocative effect of its military posture. Yet it is hell-bent on
being provocative, hell-bent on making a war with NK unavoidable.

Now, hypocritically, at least one of its mouthpieces is accusing North
Korea of "dashing hopes of diplomatic solution" with its latest
missile launch test.

It's not as if China and Russia haven't been doing exactly this type
of thing, except on bigger scales. And of course, what do we think
Trump's MOAB lob into Afghanistan earlier this year was? It was a
piece of life action with many lives at stake just to prove that their
expensive MOABs really, really work!

So, we know who wants war! But in addition to the neocons who are the
powers-that-be behind all these new millennium wars, the media should
be held responsible for the human lives their new war over the Korean
peninsula would cost.

lo yeeOn

1) N. Korea May Be Preparing Missile Test Ahead of Joint Drills -
Reports
https://www.voanews.com/a/n-korea-could-have-missile-test-in-response-to-joint-drills/4139647.html

The reports come as the U.S. and South Korea are preparing a five-day
joint exercise called `Vigilant Ace' from December 4-8 with thousands
of military personnel and more than 230 aircraft, including six F-22
Raptor fighter jets deployed to South Korea for the first time.

Pyongyang routinely condemns such military drills using belligerent
language and military threats.

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2) North Korea launches missile into sea, dashing hopes of diplomatic
solution

http://www.ctvnews.ca/world/north-korea-launches-missile-into-sea-dashing-hopes-of-diplomatic-solution-1.3697820

The launch is North Korea's first since it fired an intermediate range
missile over Japan on Sept. 15, and it appeared to shatter chances
that the hiatus could lead to renewed diplomacy over the reclusive
country's nuclear program. U.S. officials have sporadically floated
the idea of direct talks with North Korea if it maintained restraint.


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3) North Korea: US is 'escalating tension' with military exercises in
peninsula

North Korea's UN ambassador Ja Song-nam said joint US military
exercises with South Korea' are clearly threats to international peace

Associated Press at the United Nations

Monday 13 November 2017 16.05 EST

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/nov/13/north-korea-us-is-escalating-tension-with-military-exercises-in-peninsula
TT
2017-11-28 22:06:30 UTC
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Post by lo yeeOn
"US military is preparing joint exercises with South Korea, dashing
But you told us that Trump is a really great guy... what changed your
tune? Were you wrong? Or is it that your propaganda was first to elect
the worst possible candidate and then continue criticizing USA no matter
what... what does Chinese government hope to achieve by this...

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btw Chinaman, are you allowed to watch the film "Seven Years in Tibet"
in China?

At least Brad Pitt was banned in China for simply starring in the film.

Maybe you should criticize your own government instead...
lo yeeOn
2017-11-29 04:10:14 UTC
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Post by TT
Post by lo yeeOn
"US military is preparing joint exercises with South Korea, dashing
Hey TinyTeen, long time no hear! Still hiding behind that fake DPRK
address to sulk over Hillary's loss eh?
Post by TT
But you told us that Trump is a really great guy... what changed your
tune?
But you're dead wrong TinyT, I never said Trump was a "great guy",
much less a "really great guy". I only argued that fake news was
favoring Hillary Clinton to cheat the American people out of a game
changer, ya know?

Of course, you stomped away in a fit of rage after I pointed out that
the voting machines were not hacked. And I still believe that that is
indeed the truth - no tune changer here!

?Were you wrong? Or is it that your propaganda was first to elect
Post by TT
the worst possible candidate and then continue criticizing USA no matter
what... what does Chinese government hope to achieve by this...
Of course I wasn't wrong - just as Susan Sarandon wasn't wrong.

Hey, I thought you've been a fervent supporter of Russian collusion,
what happened? Now you are pointing a finger at China? Has Mueller's
investigation disappoointed you so much already?
Post by TT
btw Chinaman, are you allowed to watch the film "Seven Years in Tibet"
in China?
Why aren't I allowed to watch any film Hollywood produced, if I pay my
fair share, or 10-plus bucks per admission?
Post by TT
At least Brad Pitt was banned in China for simply starring in the film.
Who cares what the Chinese don't get to see in their own country?

Maybe it's for their own good, no? Besides, even if I do care, I
wouldn't be able to do anything about it, would I?
Post by TT
Maybe you should criticize your own government instead...
But I do criticize my own government regularly, especially, if some
power usurpers in Washington are advocating killing Koreans.

By the way, TinyT, you won't be safe either if Linsey Graham has his
say on North Korea, as you know.

lo yeeOn

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North Korea won't strike U.S. first despite inflammatory threats,
experts say

Oren Dorell, USA TODAY Published 4:01 p.m. ET Nov. 17, 2017 | Updated
4:06 p.m. ET Nov. 17, 2017

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2017/11/17/north-korea-wont-strike-united-states-first-despite-inflammatory-threats/872508001/

Despite repeated threats to incinerate the United States with its nuclear weapons, North Korea takes pains to note it won't strike first.

The over-the-top rhetoric is often misinterpreted in the West, but
North Korea has been consistent in saying it is developing a nuclear
arsenal solely to ward off a first-strike by the U.S. military, said
Van Jackson, an analyst at the Center for Strategic Studies at
Victoria University in Wellington, New Zealand.

"North Korea makes pretty inflammatory statements all the time," said
Jackson, who wrote Rival Reputations Coercion and Credibility in
US-North Korea Relations, about the history and credibility of U.S.
and North Korean threats. "But largely ... defensive `if-then' thing."

North Korea has promised to launch a nuclear strike that would turn
the U.S. homeland into "a sea of fire" if attacked. It recently tested
an intercontinental missile capable of reaching the U.S. mainland.

While such threats are "extremely colorful and poetic ... they're not
going to attack us out of the blue," Jackson said.

President Trump has followed a similar script, warning that the
U.S. will annihilate North Korea if it strikes first.

Addressing North Korean leader Kim Jong Un in a speech to the South
Korean parliament Nov. 8, Trump said: "Do not underestimate us, and do
not try us. We will not allow American cities to be threatened with
destruction. We will not be intimidated."

In a speech to the United Nations General Assembly Sept. 19, Trump
warned that "the United States has great strength and patience, but if
it is forced to defend itself or its allies, we will have no choice
but to totally destroy North Korea".

On Oct. 20, Choe Son Hui, who heads the North Korean Foreign
Ministry's North American Department, reiterated her country's
self-defense message at a Moscow conference on nuclear
non-proliferation.

"Our leader Kim Jong Un has explained our stance: We will coerce the
Americans to peace and respond to fire with fire," Choe said,
according to the official Russian news agency Tass. "We have nuclear
weapons and ballistic missiles, but we will not use them if there is
no threat."

"Our weapons are meant for protecting our motherland from the
permanent U.S. nuclear threat," she said. "The U.S. has to get along
with the DPRK's nuclear status," she added, using the acronym for
North Korea.

Choe later added that talks with the U.S. could proceed if Trump stops
threatening her country. "For a diplomatic and peaceful resolution to
happen, the right atmosphere must be formed," she said, according to
the South Korean daily The Hankyoreh. "But North Korea cannot sit
down at the negotiating table when there are threatening tweets from
President Trump every day."

Choe's speech came three days after an Oct. 17 statement was published
on the state-controlled website Uriminzokkiri in response to reports
that the U.S. is considering using low-yield nuclear weapons to
destroy the North's nuclear facilities.

It described U.S. naval forces arrayed in the seas around North Korea
for joint drills with South Korea, including the nuclear-power
aircraft carrier Ronald Reagan, an Aegis destroyer, a missile cruiser
and nuclear-armed Ohio class strategic nuclear submarines.

"The Trump group should think twice about what terrible consequences
the U.S. will face due to its scheme for a nuclear attack on the
DPRK," it said. "The U.S. reckless military gambling against the DPRK
may lead to its total destruction."
TT
2017-11-29 08:05:55 UTC
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Post by lo yeeOn
Who cares what the Chinese don't get to see in their own country?
Maybe it's for their own good, no? Besides, even if I do care, I
wouldn't be able to do anything about it, would I?
Well you aren't able to do anything about US politics either yet that
doesn't stop you from posting propaganda...
Post by lo yeeOn
Post by TT
Maybe you should criticize your own government instead...
But I do criticize my own government regularly, especially, if some
power usurpers in Washington are advocating killing Koreans.
No, you never criticize your own Chinese government. Paid Chinese trolls
obviously never do.
Post by lo yeeOn
By the way, TinyT, you won't be safe either if Linsey Graham has his
say on North Korea, as you know.
And what is China doing on North Korea issue... pretty much nothing.
Byker
2017-11-28 23:48:41 UTC
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It was a piece of life action with many lives at stake just to prove that
their expensive MOABs really, really work!
I wish they'd build something bigger. Here's a quick and dirty way:

-- Take a large obsolete transport jet

-- Equip it with cruise missile guidance

-- Pack it with 50 (or more) tons of HE

Result:


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Blowdown

Send one to Rocket Man as a wakeup call: https://tinyurl.com/y7986onq
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