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lo yeeOn
2017-12-11 21:40:58 UTC
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Why is America Addicted to Foreign Interventions? - The United States
engaged in forty-six military interventions from 1948-1991, from
1992-2017 that number increased fourfold to 188.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/why-america-addicted-foreign-interventions-022600521.html
I think that's because the neocon encroachment into Washington's power
politics is following the path of steepest descent!

When you hear Lindsey Graham, John Bolton, Nikki Haley, HR McMaster
talk about the inevitability of a preventive war against North Korea,
you know that the neocons are behind these people with a blow torch.
These guys/girls then go bark in public and make sure that the Chief
doesn't fall outside that path of steepest descent.

Just listen to the Iraq War veteran Senator Tammy Duckworth from the
great state of Illinois talk about this recently:

Vox's reporter Zack Beauchamp

That's what I find baffling, even terrifying. It seems like he wants
to, and that the aides who are supposed to be reining him in, most
notably National Security Adviser H.R. McMaster, aren't actually
doing it.

If anything, McMaster's talk about irrationality indicates that he
supports a first strike on North Korea. If they're irrational, it
means they can't be allowed to have nukes.

[Senator] Tammy Duckworth

I think that the president is playing to a segment of the population
and, I think, relying on the fact that most Americans don't realize
how close we are to this war.

Look: I'm not someone who's going to avoid war at all costs. That's
not me. But I want the American people to know what this will cost.

We went through this with Iraq. When Gen. [Eric] Shinseki, with
absolute courage, said in testimony that it's going to take 300,000
troops to invade Iraq, he was fired for it - because the Bush
administration and Vice President Cheney were selling the lie that
it would be over in two weeks and the Iraqi population would greet
us with flowers and chocolates. I remember that.

And here we are again. We don't have the troops in the region, on
the ground, to do what would need to be done to fully contain [North
s] nuclear capabilities. Just ramping up Korea - prepositioning
troops, stocks, and logistics in a place where we could do it -
could prompt the North Koreans to do something.

You dig it?

lo yeeOn
Byker
2017-12-11 23:22:40 UTC
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Why is America Addicted to Foreign Interventions? - The United States
engaged in forty-six military interventions from 1948-1991, from 1992-2017
that number increased fourfold to 188.
Because the other chickenshit world powers won't intervene to keep the
peace...
lo yeeOn
2017-12-14 08:49:59 UTC
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Post by Byker
Why is America Addicted to Foreign Interventions? - The United
States engaged in forty-six military interventions from 1948-1991,
from 1992-2017 that number increased fourfold to 188.
Because the other chickenshit world powers won't intervene to keep
the peace...
Last I looked, the term "chickenshit" suggests utter contempt towards
others who disagree with your assessment. It also suggests that you
hold utter contempt for human life.

When there is a life on this planet, it is arrogant for you to decide
you have the right to demolish it at the snap of the fingers.

Finally, the lack of standards, the lack of principle, the lack of
honesty, and the lack of consensus, all suggest an attitude that you
will choose to intervene in one conflict with bombs but not in another
simply because you can with the former, but not because you are right.

Otherwise, how do you explain that Washington has never "intervene[d]"
in the Asian subcontinent "to keep the peace" between India and
Pakistan? And how do you explain that our rulers never "intervene[d]
to keep the peace" between Turkey and the Kurdist Independence groups
or the Greek Cypriots but attacked and destroyed Iraq in 2003 when
there was a fragile peace among the different Iraqi groups?

And what is happening to Syria, Ukraine, Georgia, ...? I guess your
answer will be Washington won't intervene because some other world
power(s) have intervened? But what about Jerusalem, part of which is
on seized land and has been an obstacle to peace?

The real story, I guess, is that Washington's military interventions
have all been pursued because the powers-that-be thought they could
get away with them, despite the fact that they had nothing to do with
keeping the peace but everything to do with destroying the peace.

They were unprincipled and immoral acts that had no regard for human
life.

It's therefore worthwhile to re-read Vox's recent interview with US
Senator Ducksworth. She said to the reporter Zack Beauchamp:

I think that the president (I) is playing to a segment of the
population and, I think, (II) relying on the fact that most
Americans don't realize how close we are to this war.

in response to Zack's question:

That's what I find baffling, even terrifying. It seems like he wants
to, and that the aides who are supposed to be reining him in, most
notably National Security Adviser H.R. McMaster, aren't actually
doing it.

If anything, McMaster's talk about irrationality indicates that he
supports a first strike on North Korea. If they're irrational, it
means they can't be allowed to have nukes.

So, my take is that these many military interventions which Resty Wyse
pointed to happened because a certain powerful segment wanted them and
they took advantage of the fact that most Americans were slumbering
before it became too late.

lo yeeOn
Post by Byker
Why is America Addicted to Foreign Interventions? - The United States
engaged in forty-six military interventions from 1948-1991, from
1992-2017 that number increased fourfold to 188.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/why-america-addicted-foreign-interventions-022600521.html
I think that's because the neocon encroachment into Washington's power
politics is following the path of steepest descent!

When you hear Lindsey Graham, John Bolton, Nikki Haley, HR McMaster
talk about the inevitability of a preventive war against North Korea,
you know that the neocons are behind these people with a blow torch.
These guys/girls then go bark in public and make sure that the Chief
doesn't fall outside that path of steepest descent.

Just listen to the Iraq War veteran Senator Tammy Duckworth from the
great state of Illinois talk about this recently:

Vox's reporter Zack Beauchamp

That's what I find baffling, even terrifying. It seems like he wants
to, and that the aides who are supposed to be reining him in, most
notably National Security Adviser H.R. McMaster, aren't actually
doing it.

If anything, McMaster's talk about irrationality indicates that he
supports a first strike on North Korea. If they're irrational, it
means they can't be allowed to have nukes.

[Senator] Tammy Duckworth

I think that the president is playing to a segment of the population
and, I think, relying on the fact that most Americans don't realize
how close we are to this war.

Look: I'm not someone who's going to avoid war at all costs. That's
not me. But I want the American people to know what this will cost.

We went through this with Iraq. When Gen. [Eric] Shinseki, with
absolute courage, said in testimony that it's going to take 300,000
troops to invade Iraq, he was fired for it - because the Bush
administration and Vice President Cheney were selling the lie that
it would be over in two weeks and the Iraqi population would greet
us with flowers and chocolates. I remember that.

And here we are again. We don't have the troops in the region, on
the ground, to do what would need to be done to fully contain [North
s] nuclear capabilities. Just ramping up Korea - prepositioning
troops, stocks, and logistics in a place where we could do it -
could prompt the North Koreans to do something.

You dig it?

lo yeeOn
Byker
2017-12-14 20:32:23 UTC
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Post by Byker
Why is America Addicted to Foreign Interventions? - The United States
engaged in forty-six military interventions from 1948-1991, from 1992-2017
that number increased fourfold to 188.
Because the other chickenshit world powers won't intervene to keep the
peace...
Beacuse the US is in the hands of the Jews who require it act at Israel's
behest?
I doubt the Jews were urging Bill Clinton to rescue the Muslims in Bosnia...
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